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Three failures in three weeks: a party fit for the fight?



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Published Date: 26 July 2008
EVEN before the announcement of an SNP victory, the faces of the Labour activists in Glasgow East looked drawn and haunted.
Despite weeks of effort, the smell of defeat was in the air – the latest hammer blow to a party that once enjoyed hegemony in Scotland.

Once upon a time failure was not even contemplated. Now it has become the norm.

Leaderless in Scotland and with an unpopular Prime Minister in London, the party now faces the challenge of renewing itself north and south of the Border, while coping with the twin threats of the SNP and the resurgent Tories.

A senior Labour MSP told The Scotsman: "We all have egg on our faces. None of us saw Glasgow East coming and we really don't know how we are going to pick ourselves up from here. There is no obvious new leader, but somehow we have to take the fight to the SNP."

In just three weeks the party in Holyrood has "lost" two of its big hitters. First, Wendy Alexander resigned as leader, finally capitulating to a constant stream of bad press over donations to her leadership campaign. Now Margaret Curran, who was being touted as a potential replacement leader, lost the Glasgow East by-election and will be forever tainted by the defeat, even though many people were impressed with her campaign.

The frontrunner to replace Ms Alexander, Andy Kerr, formerly the health minister, looks almost certain not to put his name forward. Many people think he is the only Labour MSP who could take the fight to the SNP.

Ken McIntosh, Labour's education spokesman, has announced his intention to stand, but soundings taken by The Scotsman suggest that he will not find six MSPs to nominate him. The same is likely to be true of former Glasgow City Council leader Charlie Gordon, who stepped down as transport spokesman after receiving an illegal donation for Ms Alexander's leadership campaign.

That leaves just the current deputy leader, Cathy Jamieson, who most see as a stop-gap candidate to limit the damage before somebody else can be found, or finance spokesman Iain Gray, who is supposedly Gordon Brown's preference.

The SNP has already started briefing that it would prefer to have Mr Gray in charge.

"Not so much Gray as grey," a source close to Alex Salmond said.

But perhaps the biggest challenge will be ensuring that Labour grassroots activists continue to give their time.

What Glasgow East revealed was an SNP machine that was well oiled and motivated from top to bottom. Without that, Labour will be in the doldrums for some time yet.


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  • Last Updated: 25 July 2008 10:53 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Richardinho,

26/07/2008 01:01:28
Just curious, but how exactly did Curran fight an 'impressive' campaign-losing a 22% swing and the third safest labour seat? What did she do that could be regarded as 'impressive'?
2

Scotindy,

Los Angeles 26/07/2008 01:03:15
The liebour party have now been exposed to be nothing more than a SHOWER OF DISHONEST INDIVIDUALS who used to take great delight in useing TAX PAYERS money for their own personal gain. GOOD BYE AND GOOD RIDANCE!!!!
3

Richardinho,

26/07/2008 01:06:26
I wasn't impressed by her snarling and hectoring manner, her spurious claims of 'socialist' credentials or her bare faced lying about having lived in the constituency all her life. I'm sure they must have played a part, as much as the national political situation, in turning off voters.
4

Traquir , Alba,

26/07/2008 02:09:52
"The frontrunner to replace Ms Alexander, Andy Kerr, formerly the health minister, looks almost certain not to put his name forward."

Come on Scotsman we deserve a higher standard of
journalism this was announced yesterday in the
London Times.

"Kerr joins the contest to lead party in Scotland"

"Within hours of Labour crashing to abject defeat in Glasgow East, one of the party's senior figures announced he is to stand for the leadership of the party in Scotland."

see - tinyurl.com/5ls26c

Now the Times could be wrong or the Scotsman
could just be sloppy again, - I know
where I would place my bet.

The last few months the Scottish news has
been much more fairly and fully reported in
the English papers, particularly the
Times and even The Telegraph. The Scottish
papers have really got to start stepping
up - as an Independent nation Scotland will
require much higher standards than
what we have been getting so far :)

Saor Alba

P.S. It really does not matter who Labour
select to replace Wendy they are toast.
5

Guga II,

Rockall 26/07/2008 06:01:05
Not only is that harridan Curran tainted by defeat, but isn't she the one that leaked the information about the Mouth of the South's law breaking?

As for Iain Gray, I would have thought that being Maggie Broon's prefererred candidate would be the kiss of death; or are the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch) so totally under control of London Labour that they will do what Broon tells them?

Andy Kerr is probably the best of a bad bunch.
6

Boy Wonder,

26/07/2008 07:46:34
Are the Hootsmon editors and hack journos EVER going to reflect the true Scottish opinion in these pages?

Right now, they're all coming across as anti-Scots and Union lackeys!
7

donald,

glasgow 26/07/2008 08:29:48
"... even though many people were impressed with her campaign."

Who? When? Where? Whit?

The Hootsman jist cannae hack it.
8

james 1st,

hamilton nz 26/07/2008 08:47:01
being gordon brown favoured candidate is to big a handicap, he should not stand
9

Richard Taylor,

26/07/2008 08:51:30
Iain Grey (sic) had better hope Maggie disnae head up to support any leadership campaign!!
10

1745,

Edinburgh 26/07/2008 08:57:51
How could anyone be impressed by screeching Curran's campaign? If she had stopped yelling for even a second she just may have heard what Glasow East voters were telling her. Never mind she heard it at the final vote !!
11

jamboden1,

sydney 26/07/2008 10:01:59
have confidence Scotland, you know that you can do it!
My Mum voted labour all her life and when I asked her why ? she said, because she allways had.
I think those days are allmost over and Scotland is starting to realise that she can run herself, and a heck of a lot better than a split govenment in London can.
12

Richardinho,

26/07/2008 10:16:07
My Gran has always voted Conservative, and probably still does as far as I know. Yet unprompted by me, she recently told me that she thought that she was impressed by Alex Salmond.
The fact is that people, whatever their political persuasion, like someone who is their own man and stands up for the nation.
Even if you are cynical about politicians and say that, 'oh he's just a self-interested politician like the rest of them..', the reality is that it is in the SNP's self interest to stand up for Scotland. David Cameron and Gordon Brown can play lip service to Scotland, but ultimately their self interest lies in keeping the South of England happy.
13

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 26/07/2008 10:28:46
Curran screeched and squawked loudly enough, and ran around non-stop like a headless chicken, but she didn't give a single straight answer to a question in the entire campaign, and the voters of Glasgow East clearly had the brains to see through that.
14

dido-bendigo,

Scotland 26/07/2008 10:32:48
It would be a very interesting event if the SNP were to field candidates for English seats in the next General Election. There are plenty of areas South of the border which are struggling socially. Cherry picking is one thing, managing the whole nation is another. If independence is achieved, how will the political parties be formed? Or will Scotland be a one party state? Ask not what the SNP can do for Scotland. Instead, ask what Scotland is doing for the SNP!
15

JoeMcT,

BlairsFantasyIsland 26/07/2008 10:34:22
"None of us saw Glasgow East coming and we really don't know how we are going to pick ourselves up from here."

Oh really? Well just wait until 2010 and the next general election........when scores of Westminster Labour MPs will be sent packing.

People are sick of New Labour and their policies......all of which have resulted not just in failure, but have caused huge problems in their wake.

Labour are in denial, pure and simple, and the sooner they are all kicked out the better.

Congrats to the people of Glasgow, and the SNP for telling them the game's a bogey.

16

Rabbies Wee Bruthir,

26/07/2008 10:37:26
7 donald,glasgow 26/07/2008 08:29:48

I was impressed by her campaign!

It has left a lasting 'impression' in my mind of a treacherous, lying, squawking, boorish harridan, who thought that all she had to do was interrupt people when they were legitimately answering questions put to them by voters, shout as loud as she could, without thought to what she was actually saying, and finally demonstrating exactly what Nu Labour/Owld Torie really think of the good citizens of the East End of Glasgow i.e it disnae matter who they put up, they're that thick they'll vote fur anyone in a rid tie or suit!!

Aye, she certainly made an impression, but it wisnae the 'right Impression'!!! (no pun intended ;-) )

17

jdships,

26/07/2008 10:40:40
12 Richardinho

And who pray has more self interest than Alex Salmond ?

No leader of a political party could lead his party without "self interest"
Smell the coffee and don't be so blinkered !!
18

Rabbies Wee Bruthir,

26/07/2008 10:51:37
17 jdships,26/07/2008 10:40:40

Should that not read 'self confident'?

Pray, tell tae me in what manner Alex Salmond has 'more self interest' than any other political leader.

If you mean that his 'self interest' is that he wants an Independent, Free and Sovereign Scotland, that can rejoin the family of nations, then I will totally agree with you on that account, as in that case all the members of the SNP and their fellow travellers have that same 'self interest', indeed a 'collective interest'.

If, on the other hand, you are implying, by smear and innuendo, that Alex Salmond is a dishonourable man, then please make your evidence public, that he can be confronted and brought to book!!

Although I suspect that you are just being disingenuous, misleading and trolling!!
19

bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 26/07/2008 11:11:03
A senior Labour MSP told The Scotsman: "We all have egg on our faces. None of us saw Glasgow East coming”.

This “senior” MSP should have read the Scotsman & Herald on-line contributions more carefully.

This result had been widely predicted for the three weeks of the campaign!

Incidentally, did anyone pick up on Margaret Curran’s curious use of language when being interviewed after the result?
“Some people were saying that we would suffer a significant defeat, but it just did not happen”.

So I guess it was an “insignificant” defeat then Margaret?
20

Rickie,

26/07/2008 11:22:24
#19 - “Some people were saying that we would suffer a significant defeat, but it just did not happen”.

Significant only counts in numbers that exceed their salary figure! :D SO about 14,000 isn't even close...
21

the reporter,

Godalming, Surrey 26/07/2008 11:50:52
How about the SNP fielding a candiadate against George Gallaway in East London, he is Scottish, did not put the voters off in his constiuency !
22

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 26/07/2008 12:11:43
I've just been watching last night's Newsnight, where Labour MP Angela Smith came up with a truly stunning solution to Labour's current woes with the electorate:

"We have to have, perhaps, a bit more spin"

It's good to know they've learned an important lesson...
23

JoeMcT,

BlairsFantasyIsland 26/07/2008 13:08:30
"How about the SNP fielding a candiadate against George Gallaway in East London, he is Scottish, did not put the voters off in his constiuency !"

That's almost right!

What they need in England is an English version of the SNP....... and no I don't mean the Bams in the BNP.

But an English National Party that would look after England first and foremost.

The Westminster Parliament no longer represents Britain, or even England but simply rubber stamps Laws passed by unelected officials in Brussells.
24

JoeMcT,

BlairsFantasyIsland 26/07/2008 13:11:32
"So I guess it was an “insignificant” defeat then Margaret?"

Of course, Margaret couldn't lose as she is still the MSP for Ballieston.

Oh, and just loved the "feisty" Margeret on Newsnight when she was asked about 6 times about David Marshall's expenses and refeused to answer the question.

Gaun yirsel Hen.
25

the reporter,

Godalming, Surrey 26/07/2008 13:32:44
comment 23, there is alreday an english national party, though they dont seem to get any candidates elected.You only have to look at the cost of the scottish parliament £440,000,000, as against the orginal £40,000,000, to consider if the money would have been better spent ? on more worthwile causes in Scotland ? then there was the welsh asembley which only 21% of the welsh elctorate voted for but was dumped on them, which of course went over budget because it was not a normal and properley run civil engineering project, so I dont think that England wants a similar exerience in its own "parliament"
As regards the parliament of the United Kingdow which as sat at Westminster since 1707, then it needs to ensure that it represents the citizens of the United Kingdom and that would for a start be best represtended by leaving the EU,

26

JayDeeTee,

26/07/2008 14:17:10
#25. The cost of the new Wembley football stadium was over £800,000,000 (if I remember correctly). Count the zeros after the eight - it's a lot of dosh isn't it? All spent on a stadium for the English football team. Spending money on a parliament is a worthwhile cause, but to spend double this on a football ground is out of order and would definately be better spent in England, perhaps the north east.
27

PointOf View,

Edinburgh Stirling Bridge. 26/07/2008 14:34:17
25 the reporter

“As regards the parliament of the United Kingdom which as sat at Westminster since 1707, then it needs to ensure that it represents the citizens of the United Kingdom and that would for a start be best represented by leaving the EU".

The Westminster needs to ensure it represents English citizens and English matters. We here in Scotland are more than capable of looking out for ourselves. We have the best interests of SCOTLAND at heart.

23 JoeMcT
"The Westminster Parliament no longer represents Britain, or even England but simply rubber stamps Laws passed by unelected officials in Brussels".

Spot on friend. Scotland does not need to gain independence simply to hand it over to Brussels. However, that’s a fight for another day. In the mean time let’s just bask in the sweet success of Glasgow East.
28

wattie>x 1,

PLYMOUTH 26/07/2008 14:43:57
......a party fit for the fight? What an impertinent question? This was a party elected in 1997 only on the disgraceful eighteen years off "no such thing as society" Thatcher and her Tory Party's dismal record of sleaze, persistent lying, and blatant corruption, by more than the proverbial bucketful. What was the bright future, Blair and Brown's New Labour Party promised to the people of the UK too replace the worst Government ever, the Uk had experienced in modern history?
The following quotation was taken from their 1997 election manifesto made by the New Messiah Blair.

THE BRITAIN WE ALL DESERVE!
NEW LABOUR' for a FAIRER BRITAIN, a BRITAIN back to work, where COMMUNITIES FLOURISH and the young HAVE HOPE. A BRITAIN bubbling with idess BECAUSE BRITAIN DESERVES BETTER!

For those old enough to remember these pious promises I'LL leave it to you too judge.

Blair went on to say:> From day one in Government, LABOUR will set about creating a better Britain. There will be a new beginning. New hope in place of fear. New energy in place of weakness. New ideas in place of empty talk. Eleven years later, we have an island with a government that has reached the pinnacle off sleaze, lying, corruption, deceit and responsible for taking the UK into five un-declared wars. Most of those responsible are still lurking around and enjoying the good life in the millionaire bracket as most people and their families today are struggling desperately to exist as prices on every day requirement spiral out off control!

This is the main reason for the impending demise off the sleaziest. most lying and currupt shower ever to sit in parliament who were trusted to manage the destiny off the dis-united UK.

Thje obvious answer to the question raised was; "the voter replaced a vile Thatcherite government with a more vile corrupt New Labour Party that has all - but brought the UK to near RUIN and impending economic DISASTER!
29

Joe Macdelta.,

26/07/2008 16:07:46
As a party, Nu Labour are out of it, stuck with a damp squib for a leader, and it will take more than a change of leader to regain confidence, because they dont have a credible replacement. They have shown over and over that they have nothing but contempt for the electorate, they have not listened to what the people have been saying, and even today Gordon reckons he knows best. If you want to ask a question of your MP, If he's Labour, forget it I have e-mailed D Alexander 3 times, he is to busy to reply. Nu Labour, your tea's oot.
30

Joe Macdelta.,

26/07/2008 16:14:35
A senior Labour MSP told The Scotsman: "We all have egg on our faces. None of us saw Glasgow East coming”.#19

That auld shepherd in the specsavers advert would have seen it comming.
31

The Gorm,

Canada 26/07/2008 16:21:30
Mind,there is always a chance of getting what you wished for.
What will be next, perhaps a public burning of trousers?
32

John B Dick,

26/07/2008 16:35:57
They are in denial. It's the economy, world trade and not our fault.

It couldn't be because of spin, giving in to nondoms, big donors, the John Lewis list, the 10p tax, Iraq etc could it?
33

Anglosax,

26/07/2008 16:46:06
What should we do? Did they turn against the people they are there to serve?..guilty.
Did they steal from the public purse?...guilty.
Did they ignore our borders?...guilty.
Did they lie to us?...guilty.
Did they turn on this countries God?...guilty.
Did they promote another god?...guilty.
Take them to the public square; hold out their theiving hands and strike their hands from their limbs!!
WAIT!!
Did they spout green policies?...guilty.
Did they tax us to pay for this?...guilty.
Did they sit back and watch as the fatcats lined their pockets?...guilty.
...At our expense?...guilty.
Sentence them to life at hard labour.
Two shifts of 12hrs. 7/7 on the treadmill powering the turbines that will put free electricity back into the national grid.
I would prefer their freely generated electricity to their years of expensive but useless generated gas. whether they be Labour; Tory or LibDem. GET THEM ALL OUT NOW!!
34

jacquesmac,

26/07/2008 16:58:04
"In just three weeks the party in Holyrood has "lost" two of its big hitters. First, Wendy Alexander resigned as leader, finally capitulating to a constant stream of bad press over donations to her leadership campaign. Now Margaret Curran, who was being touted as a potential replacement leader, lost the Glasgow East by-election and will be forever tainted by the defeat, even though many people were impressed with her campaign."


BIG HITTERS?

What planet do you live on, Mr Maddox?

I remember a surreal cartoon strip by another Maddox, 4D Jones, which had more reality in it than your article.
35

jacquesmac,

26/07/2008 17:00:00
30 Joe Macdelta.,26/07/2008 16:14:35
A senior Labour MSP told The Scotsman: "We all have egg on our faces. None of us saw Glasgow East coming”.#19

That auld shepherd in the specsavers advert would have seen it comming.

Boom Boom!

 

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