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Hibs bereft of talent after a summer of cost cutting



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Published Date: 28 August 2008
IAIN BRINES did not fail to score when through on the goalkeeper. Iain Brines did not waste chance after chance. And Iain Brines did not merely block a free-kick, allowing an opposing player to score the winning goal.
In short, Iain Brines did none of those things, and yet he still received the blame, at least from Mixu Paatelainen, for Hibernian's 4-3 defeat by Morton in the Co-operative Insurance Cup on Tuesday night. The Hibs manager did eventually accept that
his own players had got things wrong, but only after he had lambasted the referee for making a couple of supposedly crucial errors.

It was an interesting approach for Paatelainen to take, and perhaps one which was decided on after careful consideration. True, the Finn had been sent to the stands by Brines in the closing stages of extra-time after showing his frustration, so may have been in the mood to have a go at the match official. But the decision to express his solidarity with his players was surely born of intelligence rather than impetuousness.

After a very poor pre-season, matters had been steadily improving for Hibs in the SPL. They lost at Kilmarnock on the opening day, but then beat Falkirk at home then got a point at Inverness. The defeat by Morton, however, exposed their shortcomings anew, and may well have a lasting effect on morale.

By praising his players' spirited fightback, Paatelainen showed an awareness that they might need to be buoyed up rather than criticised, and a knowledge that a public display of unity could be useful.

During those weeks in summer in which Hibs lost to Barcelona, Clyde and Cowdenbeath, rumours began to circulate around Edinburgh that Paatelainen, like John Collins before him, had lost the confidence of some of his squad. The manager himself, however, insisted that he had never worried about "losing" the dressing room or failing to get through to his staff.

Perhaps just as significantly, not a single player so much as hinted in public about dissent in the dressing-rooms, which is what invariably happens when there are splits between the coaching staff and playing personnel. Those players who have been earmarked by Paatelainen as surplus to requirements are clearly not going to be deliriously happy, but the ones who are in his plans appear to be willing to play for him.

Willing, but not necessarily able. Paatelainen has been able to bring in some players, but his budget is a tight one, and none of his signings has yet shown himself to be of a significantly higher quality than the bulk of his team-mates.

In such a situation, of course, it is up to the manager to motivate his team into performing as a real unit and regularly playing above themselves, and this is something the Finn has yet to succeed in doing. But some of the problems in the team were evident long before he took over at the start of the year, and are not the sort of thing – unless you have millions to spend – which can be quickly sorted out.

Goalkeeping is perhaps the prime example. Neither Yves Makalambay, just back from the Olympics and a spectator on Tuesday, nor Andy McNeil, who started the match but was taken off with a head knock, looks like a viable long-term option. David Grof, who came on for McNeil towards the end of the first half, should have done better at Morton's fourth goal, but he is a young and inexperienced keeper who cannot be expected to perform wonders yet.

In other words, the quality is not there yet. If Hibs are serious about building up a squad to challenge for honours – and many of the club's supporters doubt that – they need a seasoned, gaffe-proof goalkeeper. Not to mention a few recruits in other positions.

Of course, it does not help when your most talented players, such as Steven Fletcher, fail to turn chances into goals. Even allowing for a fine performance by Morton goalkeeper Kevin Cuthbert, the Hibs striker should have done better.

So there are things for Paatelainen to work on, and if he is to prove himself as a manager at this level he will have to get more out of the players he has. But he cannot shoulder the responsibility alone.

In their own way, Hibernian's notoriously parsimonious board of directors are as much to blame for Tuesday night's result as Paatelainen. Or his players. Or even Iain Brines.





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  • Last Updated: 27 August 2008 9:59 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

ozdon,

Australia 28/08/2008 00:39:53
It's been plainly obvious for months, that money needs to be spent on this squad, However i don't think there is much chance of the board allowing that to happen. Just imagine if we had a forward thinkiung board and had paid the likes of Thomson, Brown, Whittaker, even O'Connor some extra wages, and they had stayed at Easter Road. IF that had happened Morton would not be coming and beating us, Rangers and Celtic would be worried about us, instead we are merely making up the numbers, the board are not thinking of Europe, all they want is for us to avoid relegation........... It is a sad sad day when the keepers of our club can only imagine a succesful season as being one where we do not get relegated.....
2

MGJ,

Edinburgh 28/08/2008 00:41:35
It would be much worse if they were making no chances rather than not taking them.

Brines changed the game; he is either incompetent in his knowledge of the rules or a cheat or a prima donna. You choose.
3

ozdon,

28/08/2008 00:52:27
True they were always going to leave, but a wee bit of foresight on behalf of the board may have seen them stay longer.......and if the board were serious about success at the club they would re-invest in the quality of players there..
4

Hibs.net,

Edinburgh 28/08/2008 01:02:50
Last time I read an article this scathing of Hibs was when I last logged onto Brokeback. Any number of Jambo's could have written the above article and they have the cheek to call the Hootsman and Evening News a Hibs paper :o)

Alanis Morrisette spring's to mind.
5

ozdon,

28/08/2008 01:07:28
I don't think anyone can understand why Hibs have not re-invested money into that team, there is no reason why they have not. At least no reason the board have let us know. I suppose we should be grateful we are not in huge amounts of debt, but success on the field will breed more success off the field, so Mr.Petrie imagine how much you would have in youre bank accounts if you actually did spend a little on that team
6

Cammy,

Edinburgh 28/08/2008 01:11:19
I can't see why Hibs fans should be downhearted. It's very early in the season and we are creating lots of opportunities, just not taking them yet.

The new players are just settling in and are improving the team. Sure we could have spent lots of cash, but it's far too early to rule out a 3rd place finish.

After about 10 games in we will be able to make see how good (or not) the team is. I personally think that we'll be leading the way. To "Where" has yet to be decided :-).

While the Chief.......
7

ozdon,

28/08/2008 01:17:55
I said before the season kicked off we would have a good idea how our season will be after a month. What worries me is that we are plainly not good enough to challenge for a top six spot never mind third place and all Mixu gets is more of the same standard new players to buy.Why has he been looking for months and still cannot get a keeper?, why does it take so long just to sign a couple of players?, because our board won't spend. Did they never see that movie "Field of dreams", build it and they will come...... The board should release some money and if it falls apart they can say see i told you so, and given the amount they have tucked away the team will not be in debt....
8

SOFBTRC,

Far, far from Glasgow 28/08/2008 02:16:20
Brines may not have missed when clean through on goal. Etc. etc. etc. etc.

But that doesn't mean that he didn't put in a shocking display of refereeing.

Again.
9

neil7908,

28/08/2008 02:40:26
One of the more accurate pieces written on this website imo. but saying that would agree to an extent with #9 that all isnt doom and gloom, if we can add a couple decent players (keeper and a centre back), start getting the forward players converting the numerous chances they get, and avoid to many injuries then we might have a decent season. Would also agree with #3, i feel that once fletcher gets a goal he might go on a streak and maybe pinau can kick on from his debut and we could give one or to teams a hammering
10

Paladoon,

28/08/2008 07:45:40
Good anti-Hibs and anti-Mixu rant. Very little balance in the article as far as I can see. Regardless of the poor results recently I believe there is the makings of a reasonable team at ER but I will allow people some time to bed in before making my mind up on the quality of the players. One only has to look at Alan O'Brien to see that sometimes it takes a bit of time for players to produce what they are capable of. A pity this journalist does not seem capable of doing so.
11

Echo Beach,

Big Finn 28/08/2008 08:09:00
While I preferred the football that Mowbray tried to get the players to adopt, I can see that under Mixu Hibs are creating a barrowload of chances in every game they play. Players like Fletcher just need to start takng them and maybe Pinau will help us here.

We may have to adopt a style of play that is if you score 2 we will score 3 but I have a feeling there will be a lots of highs and lows at ER this season.
12

Scoop in the City,

28/08/2008 08:11:15
I heard it all now - Hibs supporters complaining about the Scotman's coverage of their team. You guys must be reading it for the first time.

PS: I agree - Brines is the worst ref in Scotland.
13

Andy1,

28/08/2008 08:30:52
What a terrible article.

The main culprit in terms of misses the other night was Fletcher and well, he is quality, he is just having a bad spell just now.

Andy why is Maka not a long term viable option? Lazy journalism - he had a very good season after making mistakes in one early game. Contributed to the best defensive record outside the OF.

Players like Thicot, Keenan, Pinau, Zemmama, O'Brien, Yantonro and Fletcher - they are all quality players.

Summer of cost cutting? We signed 5 players?

Some mention of the stlye of football and number of chances created in recent games would have balanced the thing a bit. If fletcher had taken one of his early chances the game would have been over by half time. And excuse or not the decisions at the end lost Hibs a game they were well on the way to winning after being behind.

14

johnrebus,

Oxford Bar 28/08/2008 08:32:54


Why don't you concentrate on your own team Mr Bathgate ?

They have enough problems of their own .
15

Ahmnoasairloser,

28/08/2008 08:53:58
"IAIN BRINES did not fail to score when through on the goalkeeper. Iain Brines did not waste chance after chance. And Iain Brines did not merely block a free-kick, allowing an opposing player to score the winning goal.
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In balance Hibs were winning 3-2 when Iain Brines DID award a penalty to Morton when it clearly wasn't, leading to a goal. Iain Brines DID award a fee kick to Morton when it clealry wasn't, leading to a goal and winning the match.

The fact that Hibs missed a few early on does not matter whatsoever, the simple fact is that they had done enough to win before the referee intervened with decisions which were simply incorrect, handing the game to Morton. Regardless of a perceived lack of talent at Hibs, they had done enough against a formidable performance from Morton. You simply cannot compete with an incompetent referee, no wonder Mixu blamed him.
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28/08/2008 09:12:58
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28/08/2008 10:32:18
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Geo_1875,

Edinburgh 28/08/2008 10:35:31
#20 Royaltitty

For someone who is sick of Hearts & Hibs you spend a hell of a lot of your time on our threads.

I think you maybe really feel guilty about supporting Scotland's Shame and want to make the change. Go on you know you want to...
19

Ahmnoasairloser,

28/08/2008 10:38:04
It's annoying that Hibs and Hearts have been put out the CIS cup at this stage but that's football. I suppose it's a bit like Clyde beating Celtic on Roy Keane's debut, or Rangers getting dumped out of Europe completely by Hearts 'B' team, sorry I mean Kaunus.

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Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 28/08/2008 12:02:31
I have to laugh if you thing Bathgate is a Jambo.What he is saying is what you can see yourselfs,the board of HFC have missed a chance to challange the O.F.
As a Jambo Im happy about this but they have been a bit OTT on the debt thing I think.
They now have that under control so it would appear,now Bathgate is giving the board of the team he supports a wee push.
And before we get all the, mind your own team problems I think Hibs fans should loose a we bit of the blind support for the board and demand a team that can challange the top teams because they can no probs.
JT for life.
22

Osama Bin Liner,

edinburgh 28/08/2008 12:17:39
#16 has it right.

Bathgate's arttcles are normally thoughtful but he has lost the plot on this one basing it on headlines and hearsay rather than any studied analysis. Hibs' board say they have the biggest wage budget outside the ugly sisters and Hearts. Players brought in show undoubted promise and we have been missing several first selections in every match.

Whether bathgate likes it or not, the ref did have a huge bearing on the Morton result and, if he doesn't, let's see which match Brines gets at the weekend.
23

andyhibee2485,

28/08/2008 12:28:45
I'm not trying to claim that everything is wonderful at hibs (it's not!) but I agree with many of the criticisms of the details of this articles. The main point as I understand it (that there has not been enough reinvestment in the TEAM) is correct to an extent but many points are debatable or simply wrong.

To take my favourite example:
"Perhaps just as significantly, not a single player so much as hinted in public about dissent in the dressing-rooms, which is what invariably happens when there are splits between the coaching staff and playing personnel".

Eh?????????? I'm sorry but am I to understand that Mr Bathgate is stating that players not talking about dissent in public is concrete evidence that there are splits in the dressing room? What kind of crazy logic is this? So that means when half the team complained about Collins to Petrie there really wasn't any dissent right?

Clearly the paper has got bored of putting words into Mr Romanov's mouth.
24

Ahmnoasairloser,

28/08/2008 13:31:39
#24 Kaunas top their league - meaning what? Not all leagues are equal so that means nothing e.g. that's like saying the old firm are good enough to compete in the premiership which is far from true. And it was no fluke that Kaunas beat Rangers, it was convincing. Rangers epitomise underachievement given the amount of money they spend and the fan base they have. Hibs may be a wee team by comparison but it makes it all the better when we gub teams like Rangers 3-0 twice in one season at their own ground. GGTTH.
25

Eddie,

Edinburgh 28/08/2008 14:08:56
Piss-poor story writing, Mr Bathgate.
"Neither Yves Makalambay,...nor Andy McNeil,...looks like a viable long-term option." Perhaps we could do with some sort of explanation, or justification to say that? Or is that just an opinion? It may be true (or it may not) but you can't just say that, and then go on as if it were accepted fact. What has Maka done to deserve such dismissive treatment? In one game he made a couple of mistakes (think Craig Gordon, Celtic, two fumbles - two goals) but otherwise has been very competent, if unothodox. Hibs shipped less goals last season than all other clubs outwith the OF (and many of them were OGs by useless defenders, but Shelton Martis has left the building)
And I suspect this piece was written before Hearts' result last night - can't wait to read his take on Hearts improvements since last season!
26

Wallace The Hibee,

28/08/2008 22:08:17
Sad To Say It But Hibs Are In For A Bottom Six Finish This Season Unless We Sign A Goalkeeper And A Centre Back Before Next Week.
27

Wallace The Hibee,

28/08/2008 22:11:51
3 Points are a must on saturday.


GGTTH
28

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 29/08/2008 02:38:44
Weegies p#ss off back to your own sad little threads.
Why do you come on to Edinburgh threads you no nothing.
TW@TS

 

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