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Red card over British football team for 2012



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Published Date: 13 November 2008
HOWLS of dissent have drowned out fresh calls to field a unified British football team in the 2012 Olympic Games.
The Scottish Football Association, as well as a growing body of fans, fear the one-off proposal could herald the end of Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales keeping their privileged status as independent footballing nations.

The row inten
sified after Jim Murphy, the Scottish Secretary, announced he had secured "categorical assurances" from the sport's governing body, Fifa, that a joint UK team would not undermine Scotland's autonomy in interna-tional football.

He said: "The proposal is for a UK team as a one-off in the Olympics in London in 2012 for players under the age of 23."

Fifa confirmed yesterday that Jerome Valcke, its secretary- general, had welcomed the idea of a Team GB in 2012 and said it would not affect home nations' membership.

However, it declined to say if and when this would be ratified by all 208 member associations.

A Great Britain football team has entered the Olympics before, winning gold medals in 1900, 1908 and 1912. But the idea of a unified team for 2012 has not gone down well. An SFA spokesman said: "While we would welcome any statement from Fifa, we have to be clear that Fifa is an organisation made up of its members – and it is their views that are so important in this issue. At some point, there is a real danger that a precedent of a Team GB will come back and threaten our status as a separate nation."

Fans also dismissed the Fifa pledge as meaningless, saying that statements from executive members did not offer binding guarantees.

Tam Ferry, a spokesman for No Team GB.com, said: "The last time I looked, Fifa was a democratic organisation.This sort of special dispensation would depend on a vote by the full membership of Fifa.

"It's all just part of Gordon Brown's Britishness campaign and efforts to win more medals. They are obviously pushing Valcke for a guarantee, but he's in no position to give one."

Jim Sibbald, secretary of the West of Scotland branch of the Tartan Army, said: "I am totally against any Scots playing in a Great British team. There are no guarantees that this would be a one-off. Over the years, Fifa has been desperate to get us to play as one nation, and this would give them a foot in the door."

Mr Murphy also faced a political backlash, with Alex Salmond, the First Minister, accusing him of "opening a Pandora's Box".

He said: "We know that if we go in for this, then it will be used by other countries at future Fifa assemblies to question the status of the home nations in international football.

"The idea of doing it has got nothing to do with football, and everything to do with politics. The first thing Gordon Brown said at the Beijing Olympics was that he wanted a British team in the Olympics next time. This is Jim Murphy following Gordon Brown's orders. I think he should get a few more air miles under his belt as Scottish Secretary before he ventures where angels might fear to tread."

He went on: "We've got a privileged position in international football. We are one of the very few countries who are able to be an independent football country without being an independent country. And the idea of sacrificing or jeopardising that status for the sake of the participation of a few players in an under-23 tournament as a one-off is absolute madness."

Tavish Scott, leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats, said: "Instead of getting into arguments he won't win with Scottish fans, the Scottish Secretary should be following my lead and promoting Scotland as the host for the European Football Championships."



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1

Finlang,

Switzerland 13/11/2008 02:58:30
'The row intensified after Jim Murphy, the Scottish Secretary, announced he had secured "categorical assurances" from the sport's governing body, Fifa, that a joint UK team would not undermine Scotland's autonomy in international football.'

Categorical assurances my eye. Yield to this Team GB nonsense and it's all down the pan thereafter. Murphy is Brown's latest weasely stooge and is no more to be trusted than the Master Nailbiting Manipulator himself. This has always been a bad idea and it should be put to bed once and for all time. Brown's faux-Britishness and shameful anti-Scottishness will be his undoing. Mark my words. At least we Scots football fans can take solace from that. A plague on him and all who follow him.
2

Guga II,

Rockall 13/11/2008 06:42:36
Maggie Broon and his puppet, Murphy, should take their "British week" and their "British footbal team", along with their precious Union and the Butcher's Apron and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

3

donald,

glasgow 13/11/2008 06:52:46
Sir Eck the Anglo is a Labour Team GBer, same as Murphy and Broon. NO! NO! NO! NO!

Tartan Army before the Broon Barmy.
4

John S,

13/11/2008 07:17:44
A joint British team at the London 2012 Olympics.
Former Fifa vice-president David Will warned that such a move would threaten the separate identity of the four home nations in world football. 1 November 2007

Fifa president Sepp Blatter has again threatened the four British football associations if they try to field a combined team at the 2012 Olympics. The threat is simple-field a combined team and lose your individual associations.March 09, 2008

Fifa president Sepp Blatter "If you start to put together a combined team for the Olympic Games, the question will automatically come up that there are four different associations so how can they play in one team.
"If this is the case then why the hell do they have four associations and four votes and their own vice-presidency?
"This will put into question all the privileges that the British associations have been given by the Congress in 1946." BBC Mar 09, 2008

Since 1946 the four associations have individual seats on FIFA’s rule-making International Football Association Board and one guaranteed vice-presidency position on FIFA’s Executive Committee.

Jack Warner, the Fifa VP from Trinidad and Tobago, expressed his determination to seek an end to Britain's special position within the organisation.May 30 2007

Seb Coe said the BOA, which selects teams for the Games, has decided to press ahead with a football squad despite the opposition.
When asked last night about the opposition from the Welsh and Scots, Coe replied bluntly: “F*** em!”
For scan of the newspaper - http://tinyurl.com/49fehu
5

eric,

Lothian 13/11/2008 07:28:36
Most folks in England dont want it either.silly idea.
6

Boy Wonder,

13/11/2008 09:22:17
Football has no place in the Olympic games!!!
7

qohldr,

13/11/2008 09:28:59
We the under signed guarantee that any combined football team fielded by the UK at Olympic events will have no baring on the status held within FIFA by the home nations of the UK.
We further guarantee that any individual associated with or member nation of FIFA present or future will not be able to use the fact that the UK fields a combined team at Olympic events as an excuse in any attempt to remove the status held by the home nations of the UK with in FIFA.
Any individual associated with or member nation of FIFA present or future that attempts to use the fact that the UK fields a combined team at Olympic events in an attempt to remove the status held by the home nations of the UK within the structure of FIFA will result in the automatic failure of the claim being made to remove the status held by the home nations of the UK.
Such an attempt will ensure that no further claim by individuals associated with or member nation of FIFA present or future will be able to make future claims.
To be signed by individuals holding positions within FIFA and all member nations.

Get the above put into legal terms and signed by all (and maybe and that is only a maybe) the associations of the home nations might agree.
8

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 13/11/2008 09:50:29
Jim Murphy must be a very naive politician if he actually
accepts the dubious assurances of some obscure member of FIFA?

Until FIFA holds a full meeting of all its members with
such an assurance written into its constitution then it isn't worth tuppence.
9

AJ Fife,

13/11/2008 10:19:02
Murphy is out his depth and in trying to please big Gordo, he's drowning fast.

The hapless Labour MP was on Radio Scotland last night and even wee Chick Young tore the, so-called, Secretary of State for Scotland apart. Typical Labour man though - putting the party before the country!!
10

Yeah1,

13/11/2008 10:34:44
This arguement is irrelevant anyway.

Let's face it, how many Scots or Welsh for that matter would even get into the team??

Very few is the answer - so the English might as well just enter their own team as 'GB' and leave the Scottish and Welsh out.
11

JayDeeTee,

13/11/2008 12:37:15
#10. Much as they do in government you mean?
12

big is the new small,

13/11/2008 12:44:33
i have no wish to seem the England football team disappear of the map. it isn't just about the Scottish, Welsh and NI teams!!!

www.NoTeamGB.com
13

Joanna,

13/11/2008 14:36:01
"#10. Much as they do in government you mean?"


Except of course for the main munchkins and messer uppers: Gordon Brown and his Darling.
14

Scotland Brittany,

13/11/2008 18:19:53
From the BOA website: 'The British Olympic Association (BOA) is the National Olympic Committee (NOC) for Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It was formed in 1905 in the House of Commons, and at that time consisted of seven National Governing Body members from the following sports: fencing, life-saving, cycling, skating, rowing, athletics, rugby, football and archery.' Right, football here means 'The Football Association' of England.

Since (Northern) Ireland, Scotland and Wales are not and have NEVER been part of neither the (English) FA nor the BOA, I can't see any legal ground for a Team GB comprising players of the Celtic nations.

 

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