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Shape of things to come: Scotland in 2050 will be flooded but friendlier



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Published Date: 14 October 2008
IMAGINE a Scotland so battered by storms that St Andrews' famous Old Course has been destroyed by floods. Foreign holidays are a distant memory, and the nation is populated by near vegetarians who can only delight in the occasional Sunday roast. But despite these apparent hardships, brought on by the trials and tribulations of climate change, Scots are nevertheless happier.
It might sound unlikely, but this is the vision of leading thinkers asked to depict a Scotland in 2050 that had met its targets of cutting greenhouse gas emissions by 80 per cent.

Opinion leaders, from academics to politicians, were invited to wri
te essays, which are being unveiled today at a seminar called "Reducing Carbon Emissions – the View from 2050".

Professor Jan Bebbington, vice-chair (Scotland) of the Sustainable Development Commission, described a country battered by storms, flooding and coastal erosion to such an extent that people could no longer look forward to ever witnessing an Open Championship on the links at St Andrews.

However, she also depicted a country where people were happier because society's values had moved away from consumerism towards relationships with family and friends.

"While everyone still consumes in order to meet their needs, consumption is seen much more as a means to an end rather than an end in itself," she said.

In the Scotland she described, politicians had succeeded in involving more people in decision making, strengthening democracy.

The Fife Diet, which currently involves about 100 people eating local produce, had become internationally famous and Rangers and Celtic football teams had inspired the nation by eating a healthy, low-carbon diet known as the "Glasgow Diet". Most people had become vegetarian, eating meat sparingly but "with great relish".

Car clubs and renewable energy flourished and a new tax system was based on use of greenhouse gases.

Prof Bebbington told The Scotsman it was too early to judge whether Scotland will indeed be successful in meeting its targets. "If we are going to, we really have to be very serious very fast," she said.

Simon Pepper, Rector at the University of St Andrews, also envisaged that a 2050 Scotland that had met its climate-change targets would have developed new values. He described how: "Diets simplified, 'trivial travel' was decimated, businesses took advantage of improved telecommunications, and holidays abroad dropped well below the ludicrous early 21st century projections of the airport operators."

He added: "Airport expansion began to seem like science fiction". However, instead of "doom and despair" at the sacrifices he said people were happier.

"People started to discover more value in health, peace of mind and fellowship than income and status, and took pleasure in simpler things, enjoying the odd Sunday roast or holiday abroad more as a treat than a routine expectation," he wrote.

He imagined how car sharing led to eased congestion, the streets were calmer and there was a renewed sense of community.

Patrick Harvie, a Green MSP who imagined he was giving his farewell speech to parliament in 2050, also painted a picture of a society that was happier and fairer.

He depicted a situation where people at first found it challenging to move away from giant retail chains and "jump on to the allotment bandwagon", and to realise their place on the property ladder would fall "from under them".

However, he said eventually it led to a more equal society. "Freed from the relentless pressure to acquire and flaunt material wealth, and to judge one another by their acquisitions, our society has managed that inequality rather better, and reduced it more quickly, than was the case with the poverty of the post-industrial society we left behind," he wrote.

He finished his imaginary parliamentary address by moving a motion that: "The conspicuous greed, which characterised society over much of the last century and which is inextricably linked to ecological harm of all kinds, must never return to demean and diminish human society."

BACKGROUND

SIXTEEN opinion leaders have written essays based on their vision of Scotland in 2050, assuming it meets its emissions targets. They were set the task by the David Hume Institute.

The essays were written by business leaders, academics and politicians, religious leaders and the Scottish Youth Parliament. They will be unveiled at a seminar at Our Dynamic Earth in Edinburgh today, called Reducing Carbon Emissions – the View from 2050. The idea was the brainchild of Richard Wakeford, the director-general of environment at the Scottish Government.



The full article contains 754 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 13 October 2008 9:55 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Hmm ...,

14/10/2008 00:27:46
... "Patrick Harvie, a Green MSP who imagined he was giving his farewell speech to parliament in 2050, also painted a picture of a society that was happier and fairer."

Deluded, just deluded! I don't fancy his chances of making it past the next election!

And his perception of a fairer society - is this man a Communist? Or just a raving Trot, wanting to break up modern life for some deprived Utopia?
2

Maisie from Morningside,

14/10/2008 01:15:27
How clever of Professor Jan Bebbington to be able to predict the weather in 40 years time.
The BBC and Met Office seem unable to make accurate predictions for the next day....
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 01:42:56


"where people were happier because society's values had moved away from consumerism towards relationships with family and friends"

Well I tell you something, we the Scots will have,...

.... NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF!!,... On the above Quote,

It will ONLY-BE, our Polish immigrant's, who accomplish this!

Shame on the 'Scots' ABSOLUTE SHAME!!
4

Tom in Belmont,

Belmont 14/10/2008 02:44:21
Why does this remind me of a George Orwell novel? All that's missing is a Ministry or Relish...
5

Tom in Belmont,

Belmont 14/10/2008 02:44:50
Ministry of Relish, or Car Sharing, or Community, etc.
6

The Trossachs Hasher,

14/10/2008 03:23:57
This sounds like something you would get a bunch of schoolchildren to do.

"Come on now children, let's all write a story about what we think life will be like in 2050".

What a waste of space.
7

Theologist,

Auckland 14/10/2008 05:07:37
Never mind all that - what happened to the hover cars & jet packs we were promised ?
8

Guga II,

Rockall 14/10/2008 06:00:45
#6.

The only thing is that primary school kids would do a better job of it.
9

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 14/10/2008 06:12:17
#7 Theologist

Hovercars would certainly come in handy since it is estimated that the melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets will raise the worlds Oceans by 80 meters. There is a shingle beach on Jura, perched upon a hill, that shows what the sea level was at in a previous No-Ice Age.
10

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 14/10/2008 06:17:24
#9 Kampung H.

A correction: raised beaches show land rise after release from ice weight, NOT higher sea levels.
11

Unimpressed one,

14/10/2008 07:32:50
The Scotsman could have asked anyone to comment on this topic and their responses would probably be as valid or otherwise as this tripe. The single most important lesson is that when it comes to forecasting the future nobody ever gets it right,least of all those of a greenie persuasion.
12

Boy Wonder,

14/10/2008 08:25:35
To quote from our future First Minister, Frankie Boyd in 2020 ... "Citizens of New Atlantis ...."
13

Boy Wonder,

14/10/2008 08:26:49
AND we'll still be screaming about politicians spending too much on personal boat-taxis!!
14

drunken proffet,

Tassy 14/10/2008 08:30:46
#5 Car sharing, well that is an encouraging thought. Back in the fifties there were not a lot of cars to share, most folk in Edinburgh relied on the trains, trams and walking. Will you be happier, just about guaranteed. Provided you have the industry, the power generation, and the railways. Trams as well, not too fussed about those streamlined guys. You also have solar hot water panels, insulated housing, good medical care, reasonable schooling for your kids. You will have to employ folk to go round kicking folk up their a#se to get them to join the real world.
15

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14/10/2008 08:41:29
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suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 14/10/2008 08:46:04
Yep I remember similar predictions telling us we would all be either living in domes on the moon or deep under the oceans by 2000.
I never got over the disappointment.
17

Me, myself and I,

Livingston 14/10/2008 08:49:53
#12

Frankie Boyle ...
18

eyeswide,

14/10/2008 08:56:17
"Professor Jan Bebbington, vice-chair (Scotland) of the Sustainable Development Commission.......blah blah"

I can't see a motive here! She doesn't need to beg for funding so what is her beef with defending an elitists playground? It's only £130 per person, per round, surely a Dutch solution is affordable to hold the beach back from the... former beach?

19

Joe,

Dick Place 14/10/2008 09:14:00
#15..A 'Brown' MSP in fact?
20

fresian,

edinburgh 14/10/2008 09:15:25
Can we then assume that, due to rising sea levels, Granton Waterfront will also bee flooded, thus removing the need for the unwanted tramline.
21

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 09:42:30
Ah yes, let's go back to the values of community! You know; not enough to eat, walking everywhere, kids dyinng of easily preventable diseases, forelock tugging to the great and good - that sort of thing.

I think it is unlikely that people will be prepared to accept some sort of mildly high tech serfdom, while those who make these predictions reserve for themselves the best seats at the future tabele. No need for elections or public accountability when these wise people know so much better than the rest of us.

Welcome to the new Middle Ages
22

Scythia,

14/10/2008 09:47:01
They omitted to mention how the thorny subject of demographics, will have utterly transformed the land ,people and culture. Why not ?
23

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14/10/2008 09:56:04
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11+failed,

the pans 14/10/2008 10:08:58
I just love these forecasts from our AGW enthusiasts. Here is the Jan 2007 forecast for the coming year from our world leading global warming conspiracy advocates The Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research(Essentially the Met. Office).
"Met Office global forecast for 2007

Global temperature for 2007 is expected to be 0.54 °C above the long-term (1961-1990) average of 14.0 °C;
There is a 60% probability that 2007 will be as warm or warmer than the current warmest year (1998 was +0.52 °C above the long-term 1961-1990 average)."

We now know the real result for 2007. 2007 turned out to be 0.37°C above the long-term (1961-1990) average. 2007 was colder than 2006 which in turn was cooler than 2005, indeed 2007 was the coldest year since 2000.
Of course the Met Office has plastered the press with grovelling apologies for their rubbish forecasts and I don't think!
25

Cheezy,

EK 14/10/2008 10:26:08
These people simply have far to much time on there hands!!! yet again!!! i'm sure i done something similiar when i was in Primary 5!!

Theres no point in predicting what the country is going to be like if we reduce our energy consumption to lower levels when its highly unlikely that this will ever happen to the levels that are expected because the truth is we're to selfish to let it ever happen.............sharing my car??? you must be joking!!!
26

Resolutions,

14/10/2008 10:33:58
Forecasts = the day to day condition of the 'atmosphere' and as we are only too well aware is unpredictable!

Climate is the trends revealed by the pattern of the weather readings. That is based on fact and is by nature, more predictable.

By predicting trends from data gathered a reasonable idea of future CLIMATE can be ascertained. From a great deal of data collected, it seems that the sea levels are likely to rise considerably. If this is the case from one rather small section of coastline, what about other areas of this island?


There is a distinct difference.
27

WJohn,

West Lothian 14/10/2008 10:39:29
Persuade Mr Trump to build an hotel, recreation and executive residential development complex between the golf-course and the sea.
The description of the future, "Foreign holidays are a distant memory, and the nation is populated by near vegetarians who can only delight in the occasional Sunday roast." sounds like the life lived by any pensioner today.
28

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 10:55:25
"Reducing Carbon Emissions – the View from 2050".

When they use the correct terminology, I might listen to them. Until then they can stick their carbon footprints where the sun don't shine.

For about the thousandth time...

CARBON EMISSIONS ARE THICK, BLACK SMOKE.
THE EARTH'S CLIMATE IS DRIVEN BY WATER, NOT CO2.

Is that clear now?
29

Lianachan,

Highlands 14/10/2008 11:44:11
Well, we'll be independent by then. That's reason enough to be happier, regardless of the climate.
30

AJ Fife,

14/10/2008 11:57:04
Scotland might be flooded a little in 2050, but half of England will be under water and we'll have closed the border! HA HA!!

What goes around.....
31

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 14/10/2008 12:12:02
If Scotland is "friendlier" in 2050 it will be a welcome change from some of the distinctly UNfriendly posts that occur daily in these threads.

Now,let's all get kissy, kissy and make up and forget our differences and begin the NEW FRIENDLINESS REGIME.

NOT!
32

AJ Fife,

14/10/2008 12:22:00
TCW,

Whatever do you mean?? :)
33

Saoghal Beag,

14/10/2008 12:25:24
why we talking about car sharing when the option will be not to make the journey and work from home?
34

Saoghal Beag,

14/10/2008 12:26:56
Fuel head, thick black smoke....that is dependent on the concentration of the pollution, just because it becomes diluted in the air and you no longer can see i does not mean that it isn't there.
35

Benjamin,

Dresden 14/10/2008 12:29:06
I love it! Not only are they able to predict the weather 40 plus years from now, but the diet too! Preposterous....
36

JoeMiddleton,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 14:28:20
What a lot of utter rubbish, and this is if we have managed to cut carbon emissions by 80% is it? In that case why bother.
37

Joanna,

14/10/2008 15:33:46
AJ @ 30

That's not very friendly now is it?

Close the border if you can, we'll just force our way across it like we've done before and you can gnash your teeth (if you've got any left then) and shake your fist at all the English folk while they pinch your wee croft and steal your cattle.

Ha Ha Ha - cue mad demonic laughter! :D
38

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 15:47:06
Saoghal Beag:

I am aware that as the concentration of carbon particles within a given volume of gas reduces, the gas as a whole becomes less opaque. That is schoolboy physics---and it is not the point I am trying to make.

The "global warming" brigade are claiming (incorrectly) that CO2 is going to be responsible for Armageddon, yet even though it is a colourless, odourless gas which is heavier than air, they insist upon referring to it as "carbon emissions".

If they cannot even bring themselves to use the correct terminology regarding a substance which is the lynchpin of their arguement, then I am frankly not interested in anything they have to say. Especially when what they say involves physics and mathematics of the highest order. If they can't get the basics right, what credibility does it give them for the more complex conjectures? None whatsoever.

CO2 is CARBON DIOXIDE. It is NOT carbon.
39

Unimpressed one,

14/10/2008 16:24:10
The greenatics still haven't managed to answer how leaving such a 'potent' legacy of burying millions of tons of 'lethal' CO2 to future geneations to deal with is somehow better than the nuclear industry doing the same with their waste. Utter hypocrisy.
40

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 14/10/2008 17:05:49
How abysmally pathetic can they get!

First, it is absurd to suggest that the greenhouse emissions of Scotland alone are going to have a material effect on the world's oceans. Even with Scottish independence, the seas around our coasts will continue to be subject to global conditions.

Secondly, Scotland is still rising out of the sea in an isostatic rebound from the last ice age. The more level-headed soothsayers suggest that this will more than counter the rise of oceans globally.
41

AJ Fife,

14/10/2008 17:19:10
#37,

The only way I'll be around in 2050 is if I can feed on the blood of young virgins!

You'll be safe then..........;)
42

Morry,

Scotland 14/10/2008 18:35:30
I vote that Broon's camp sinks first!
43

Resolutions,

14/10/2008 23:06:32
#38
'CO2 is CARBON DIOXIDE. It is NOT carbon.'

So it contains no carbon despite of its name?

You know perfectly well that the carbon dioxide is reacting within the atmosphere and causing problems, so stop trying to imply that we are all 'thickos' and you are not!

You are equally as aware that the CO2 is cauing a layer to help the earth's warming etc etc etc.

Cut it out and stop being an ijiot.

 

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