Let's get this sratight.. The Taliban who publically executes their victims without a trial, are worried about they, themselves NOT having a trial!! Or a fair trial!!
:)!!!

See particularly the third-last and second-last
paragraphs of this report and step back in amazement.

Taleban "worried about fair trials"? Taleban protesting about "barbaric acts"? Give me strength. These vile torturers and arbitrary killers of innocent women and girls deserve only the same degree of fairness they mete out to others who don't share their brand of fundamental madness.

Oh! They don't want martyrdom and the 72 virgins that go with it then?Really dedicated followers of Allah!

That's a good one. The Taliban are allowed to execute people without a trial, but object to their lot being executed after a trial. If they are so concerned about the death penalty, then they should stop killing people themselves.

Istarted to laugh after reading the headline, but then I remembered seeing a video where they shot a lady point blank in the head.

Incidentally, I notice that the Hootsmon Pravda Branch and Xinhua Branch censors are not allowing any comment on the continuance of the Israeli genocide policies against the Palestinians by not allowing the UN to take food supplies into Gaza.

This is yet another example of collective punishment, in direct breach of international law.

#6 Guga, could be they will let the food through when the numpties stop firing rockets into Israel.

I dont think you could make this story up.
What a bunch of hypocrits.

An eye for an eye until we are both blind. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial, to act otherwise is barbarism.

As much as I abhor the Taleban, don't forget the US regularly slaughter innocent men, women and children going about their business using their rocket armed unmanned drones.

Trial, what trial?

10--first line should read "As much as I *adore* the Teleban...."

The Taleban are a motley and verminous group of murderers, rapists, killers of women and children,liars,deceivers,and thelowest om the low on the human scale of things and yet THEY want justice?

BEHEAD THE WHOLE SORRY LOT OF THEM AND BE DONE WITH THAT SUBHUMAN GROUP OF SCUM AND SLIME!

#10 from Queensland

I had not realised until now that you are a terrorist sympathiser and supporter of the murder of women and children.

So the fanatical murdering scum who indiscriminately kill our soldiers, western aid workers and fellow Afghan men women and children want to stay alive. The answer should be to kill them in increasing numbers. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.

13 TimW1234,Ottawa, Canada 14/11/2008 15:57:06
#10 from Queensland

I had not realised until now that you are a terrorist sympathiser and supporter of the murder of women and children.
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Actually he isn't. He's just pissed cuz his American sailor daddy did a moonlite.

The Taliban need ground into the dirt, and any other group of cowards that abuse their women. They make up their own religious rules and do what they wish in the name of Allah. Our female A10 and F16 pilots tore them a new backside.

#6 Guga
I noticed that too. I only found one other article which didn't allow comment.
I had wanted to say that the appropriate EU response to Israel's refusal to admit their observers to Gaza should have been to instantly and completely revoke Israel's trading status with EU.
#7 Jim A
There had been an effective truce with Hamas until Israel crossed the border and broke the truce.
Shouldn't complain about that however, we all know the Holocaust gives Israel 'carte blanche'.
As to the Taleban, we cannot beat them in traditional military terms (so our generals tell us). Perhaps we should take our commanders' advice and talk to the Taleban.

11,13,14,15,16

I take it you people have a comprehension problem or is it the case that you all jump to conclusions without digesting the facts or maybe you are all just plain stupid.

If you believe indiscriminately killing twenty, thirty or forty innocent people to get at one guilty party then you are all as reprehensible as the Taleban.

One would expect that type of behaviour from the likes of Taz and Ben More but the rest of you should know better.

#18 continued

.....and if, as you people indicate, EVERYONE is as guilty as everyone else if they are within a hundred metres of a guilty party, then you are demonstrating a prejudice very similar to that of German National Socialists.

Pull your heads out of your trousers.

For all the namby-pamby hanky-wringers the words of Sheik Yousef Al-Qaradhawi Published in Al Yawn Al-Sabi on the 4th of November, stated among other things, that "During Clinton's presidency more Iraqi's died than in the period under Bush".This Egyptian is no friend of the US either! He further commented on who they would rather have as President, he preferred McCain and the reasons were: "Prefer an obvious enemy who does not hypocritically [conceal]his hostility to you...to the enemy who wears a mask[of friendliness]" The latter of course being President-elect Obama sin laden!

Lynne, Carolyn

Lend me your eyes. I read your posts in the other fora. Take a good look and read all the posts coming from both Zeba and Barb B. Take your time to examine “their” posts carefully. Don’t be fooled by “them” and “their” extreme illogical views. I have a strong feeling this Zeba and Barb B are the same person making use of two IDs to conceal “their” political agenda.

If you are not awared, Zeba and Barb B’s posts are mainly focused on bringing up Israel, how great the country is and the sum of money Israel gets from US eventhough sometimes the story in discussion reported by Scotsman has nothing to do with Israel nor this word Israel ever mentioned in the story.

Zeba would like to make you believe he is supporting Israel for a cause but the truth of his posting is, only later to give an opportunity for Barb B (same person) to follow-up with accusing Israel of wrongdoing, and spouts out a load of hatred for the Jews. So, the deliberately use of two characters (by the same person) are actually to put up a show.

In the end, you will soon realize “their” motive behind trolling Scotsman with multiple IDs is --- to make Israel looks very bad in the eyes of the world, as if she is power crazy like a bad guy running the world, and to give an impression the Jews control America.

He (as Zeba and Barb B) is no friend of Israel and coming here deliberately to pull down Israel particularly to antagonize, and stirring up hatred for the Jews. I am very certain this terrorist apologist has also created other identity to conceal his true colour intended to discredit the Jews.

If you care for Israel survival, you don’t go around making arrogant statements to make it sounds like the Jews are very greedy, power hungry and as if they control America. This is of no benefit for the Jewish race except create hate and tension.

#21

#21

"If you care for Israel survival, you don’t go around making arrogant statements to make it sounds like the Jews are very greedy, power hungry and as if they control America. This is of no benefit for the Jewish race except create hate and tension".

.....There you are Lynne and Carolyn, the truth is not in Israel's interest.

#22

I was smiling away after reading through your comment because I've found it really amusing. Have you actually read the full content of my post to understand the message I am trying to pass on to Lynne and Carolyn???

The arrogant statements came from a terrorist apologist using these IDs - Zeba, Barb b who pretends to support Israel but by constantly bringing up the subject of Israel (irrelevant to the article reported) and posting extreme illogical bigoted views, he hopes to attract angry hate-mongers, to stir up endless ill feelings and vitriol against the Jews. That is the plot he plays to discredit Israel.

I suppose you need a pair of new glasses.

Post# 12, 13 Tim1234

I suppose you fully endorsed the American murder of 90 civilians, including mothers and infants in Hirat a while ago.

Have you not noticed that everytime America bombs a residence it claims so many "suspected" insurgents were murdered, oops I mean killed! Since when does a nation take pride in murdering "suspects"???? Suspects are presumed innocent until guilt is reasonably proven!

By the way, you are promoting genocide in your post!

Are you also forgetting that Madeleine Albright when appearing on a televised interview was asked if the price of a quarter million Iraqi babies lives were worth the price to pay for American sanctions he emphatically answered, "Yes, of course it was" Not long after she displayed the official American depth of contempt for Arab life 9/11 happened. If you examine the American role both direct and indirect in causing death and mayhem in the Middle East, the wonder is that 9/11 took so long in comming.

On 3July 1988 for instance an American Naval Captain violating Iranian waters at the time murdered some 292 unarmed Iranian civilians overflying Iranian airspace and waters at the time in an Airbus Jumbo Passenger Jet. He simply shot them down on some filmsly excuse! LT. William Calley murdered some 500 Vietnam Villagers in My Li, the US tried to cover this war crime up for years but eventually it got out!

American forces raped and murdered a 14 year old Iraqi girl along with 24 members of her family to silence them at Haditha! They will have a show trial and be found not guilty!

In the final analysis who are the people that have brought the most death and suffering to the world??? Terrorism does not arise spontaneously, it is a reaction when people are subjected to suffering by a superior power that they cannot offer resistance to because of its opressive and overwhelming strength allowing it to murder and impose its will on others!

For centuries the Muslims were prepared to practice the

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their barbaric religion on their own people and in their own lands without interfering with the west!

Then along came the Jewish terrorist organisations Irgun, Stern, Haganana and others. They introduced terror into Palestine! For instance on 22 July 1946 the Irgun bombed the King David Hotel in Jerusalem located in Palestine. Begin was involved in the murder of 91 people at that bombing, he was later rewarded with the Premiership of Israel. Details of Jewish terrorist organisations can be found at the following Official British Government Web-Site hosting MI5 files: htt://www.mi5.gov.uk/print/page337.html

MI5 is a branch of British Intelligence!

Israel is a nation that was founded on terror and ethnic cleansing of their Semitic Brothers and Sisters, the Palestinians! Today the rest of the world pays the price of the terror that the Jewish terrorists introduced into Palestine!

#24 Bele's Bane

You are talking nonsense.

Of course I am not promoting genocide and to state that I endorse American murders in the fields of war is just sheer lunacy on your part.

You do me a great injustice.

# 26

A change of tune from you now Bele's bane has thrown some truth at you.

You do great injustices to millions.

#23

"That is the plot he plays to discredit Israel.

I suppose you need a pair of new glasses".

Not at all. Every post of Lynne, Carolyn1 and now yours discredits Israel.

You would do well to read and digest posts #24 and 25.

#28

Quote: “Not at all. Every post of Lynne, Carolyn1 and now yours discredits Israel.”

Hahahahaha, just another amusing joke in making after the first one at #22. In fact, I am expecting your inane comment as you have no case to make.

If you have no idea of another plot, #24 and #25 came from Bele, who is notorious for creating multiple IDs to troll Scotsman forum --- to conceal his political agenda and true identity. First signed up as Thorr, then Gere, later as Brage, next as Draupnir and now this time as Bele’s bane. Maybe some more other IDs beside the ones mentioned here I have yet to find out.

Foolish people like yourself would bother to believe a liar whose motive of posting in Scotsman is spouting out venom of lies and propaganda to incite hate to suit his political agenda. If there is anyone out here intending to discredit Israel, it is obviously very clear you are one of the terrorist apologists in view of what you have posted so far. It’s the same when talking about the just concluded US election. Posters with the intelligence can easily figure out whose side you take judging by your posts.

So, you wanted to make another copy acting like Zeba, pretending to be supportive of the Jews but at the same time acting as a terrorist apologist to fool other commentators. If you think you can fool me, dream on. Never happen, old boy.

#25

Quote: “Israel is a nation that was founded on terror and ethnic cleansing….. of the terror that the Jewish terrorists introduced into Palestine!” Unquote

What garbage are you parroting again and your many silly excuses? Same old, same old boring stale make-up trash, all cr*p!!! The days of terrorism started long long time ago during Muhammad reign of terror to conquer the world by making use of his “peaceful” religion as a tool to commit atrocities and the use of violence to pursue his blood thirsty mission. You are deluding yourself to ever blame Israelis for what your Muslim extremists done in the first place.

Keep spinning and creating your own fairy tale, only fools like you believe your Islamists are angels with no blood stained on their hands. What an idiotic moron you have become!!!

Get your facts right. Precisely, it was the UN who founded Israel and voted to give Israel statehood in 1948 and legal recognition status. There’s no such thing as Israel founded on terror! Get over it, the Jews are here to stay.
The Jews made up just 0.3% of the world population and I’m amazed you have so much problems with them.

Still suffering from Jihad stress? Waste no time. suggest you jet off fast to the Middle East. Your Islamsts and Jihadists will certainly welcome you as they need you to help them terrorise the civilians and their suicide bombing mission.

#25

TimW1234 was right, you are talking nonsense - distorting his statement out of desperation to find excuses to suit your liking and so, you also needed to shift subject by bringing up the Americans when TimW1234 was making statement only about the Taleban.

Get a grip. Your Taleban is a bunch of uncivilized violent, blood thirsty, war mongering fanatics and sadists. Period

In response to some posts let me uneqivocally state that there is no need to discredit Israel, Israel itself excells in this area!

Before 1948 the world had no Islamist acts of terror only Jewsih ones, please see the info on the MI5 site!

The UN was at that time funded almost entirely by the US which was also paying out vast sums of money to member states of the UN under the Marshal Plan!

There was therefore more than undue influence exerted on those members of the UN benefitting from US payments, the vote was "rigged".

Some posters also seem to have forgotten a little episode in history called the Crusades. Ther is still residual ill feeling in the Middle East to this day as a result of this bloody episode!

When the Jewish people were still a collection of Bedouin tribesmen under the Bedouin Patriarch Abraham they attacked the ancient ancestors of the present Palestinians and established Israel. Abraham himself was a nomadic bedouin from the arid district of Ur according to the Old Testament. Ur was situated in Asia not Europe, people tend to forget that.

The tragedy is that the Jews, their semitic Arab Brothers and Sisters as well as the Christians all worship the same intolerant monotheistic Asian God. He is just accorded different names, Jehova, Jesus and Allah, they are one and the same deity.

All these groups should take a page from the history of ancient, tolerant Pagan Europe. Democracy itself was conceived in ancient Athens circa 400BC. A tolerant Pagan European named Pericles came up with the idea.

Incidentally, talk of bloodthirsty remember Yassim Deir? In 1948 Jewish terrorist organisations murdered some 200 odd Palestinians, including women and children at the little village and threw their bodies into the well so ensuring no Palestinian will ever return! The New York Times carried a full report and no doubt can be accessed in its Archives to this day!
The terrorism today began with Jewish terrorists, the British Go

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Government website, the truth about Jewish terror in Palestine is there for all to read!

#32

So, you claimed the UN vote was rigged! Have you been a member of the UN? What is the position you hold there? Are you a witness on the spot when the UN passed the vote to establish the Jewish State? Where is the evidence? Don’t count on hearsay and suspicion to make your case.

Jewish acts of terror??? Mankind had fought in the name of terrorism long before 1948. And now you brought up the Crusades. So, why didn’t you call Crusades acts of terror and Islamist acts of terror during Muhammad reign? And your claim of Bedouin Jewish tribesmen established Israel but I suppose Israel recognition as legal entity status came to the fore after UN vote.

Again, you selectively brought up the issue of Yassin Deir? Do you expect me to believe the Palestinians never use violence to kill as many Jews as possible? I can also dig it up but I thought you can do that job better since you terrorist supporters are notorious for digging up the events of the past and history.

What about the Black September happened in Jordan? Does this upheaval escape your memory? The Jordanians were killing your Palestinian brothers in large number. Why didn’t you make a fuss out of it seeing that the killers are never brought to trial? Yea, the obvious reason lies with the killers involved were Arabs and not Jews, right? All you are ever good at is to give an impression the Jews are the bad guys eventhough the Palestinians (and Hezboo guerillas) are equally as bad as the other.

Post #34 P.K

I advise you do some reading regarding background to the UN vote of 1948!

I was specifically referring to the explosion of international Terror that has spilt out of the inter -tribal feud between the Jews and their Semitic Brothers ands Sisters, the Palestinians since 1948.

Black September resulted from the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from their homeland in Palestine by the Jewish terorists. Jordanians felt threatened by such an influx of Palestinian refugees!

Are you denying that Abraham was the patriarch of the Jews? Remember he came from the region of Ur, he lived the life of a Bedouin nomad travelling around with his flocks and tents from waterhole to waterhole and as his tribes moved through the desert with him, they eventually grew to twelve in number during their meandering around the desert(you had to provide your own home entertainment at night those days)

No I am not of Semitic origins, I am a long haired, bearded Northern barbarian, I do not even worship the intolerant, monotheistic Asian god that the Jews, Christians and Muslims do! Therefore the Palestinians cannot by logic be described as my brothers, they are yours!

#35

There’s no need for more reading with regards to UN. You have no case to prove the vote was rigged, anyway. Israel statehood has been well recognized and received as sovereign country ever since except for the Arab world. The split between the Jews and Arabs are due to both sides unwilling to tolerate each other presence, especially the Islamists who are more interested to dominate the region to turn it into a Caliphate ruled under Islamic laws rather than living with infidels and of sharing basis package. Give them an inch, they will ask for a mile!

Get real, old boy. No such thing as Black September resulted due to Jewish terrorists. It’s a fact --- Jordan is part of Palestine. In 1970, Crown Prince Hassan of Jordan stated “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan”. Therefore, Jordan is also a Palestinian Homeland. The PLO has often declared Jordan is a part of Palestine and occasionally lays formal claim to it. Some people also believe Palestinians are Jordanians. Somehow Jordan’s majority population is Palestinians. So, why not give them a second homeland there rather than bitching with the Jews since they cannot tolerate living together with the infidels?

I have no interest in whatsoever any stories you spewed regarding Abraham and his Bedouin nomads. Your religion instruction from the Bible is of little interest to me. I am not coming here to talk of religion.


Quote: “Therefore the Palestinians cannot by logic be described as my brothers, they are yours!” Unquote

I am referring the Palestinians as your brothers because you have always been taking their side no matter what they have done and their terrorist activities. Nothing to do with whether you’re a White, Brown, Yellow or Black man with no religion attached. They are not my brothers as I am no Arab and Muslim.

PK's arguments:

"I don't like people critising Jews but I hate Muslims"

"The UN is a discredited, pro muslim, organisation but I will validate the legality/morality of the setting up of Israel by citing UN approval."

and the usual....

"A man with an RPG and a koran is a terrorist but a man with an apache helicopter gun ship and the tora is a soldier."

The two great herd ordering principles of history, patriotism and religion, together in one ugly mass of violence and symptomatic stupidity.

#37

I am very much amused to read your quotes created in favour and for yourself and in the interest of your political agenda. Regular posters who have exchange views with you are doubtless in for no surprise with these quotes. The opposite of your quotes are seems too real and true. Let me make use of your misleading quotes to give examples.

Your quote: "I don't like people critising Jews but I hate Muslims" Unquote

You were known to have made numerous attempt to discredit the Christians by making use of comparison, exaggeration and shift subject tactics eventhough the discussion and article reported were concentrated on Islamists and Muslims. You are no stranger to these tricks to fool posters. This is what terrorist apologists like yourself do when you failed to come up with constructive argument to refute my statements. Obviously, you don’t like people critising your Arabs and Muslim friends.

Your quote: "The UN is a discredited, pro muslim, organisation but I will validate the legality/morality of the setting up of Israel by citing UN approval." Unquote

You are now trying to rewrite history to suit your political agenda, to imply Israel is somewhat set up by the Jews themselves. This is foolish. Get a life! The very truth must have hurt you in so much that you have to distort and twist the historical fact that it was the UN who voted and established the Jewish State. I see, you are very upset to learn Israel was set up not as an Arab homeland but as a Jewish homeland.

Your quote: "A man with an RPG and a koran is a terrorist but a man with an apache helicopter gun ship and the tora is a soldier."

Quote like this only suits to come from an idiotic moron, Finnking. No one can deny the fact that majority of the terrorists in the world made up largely of Islamists who use Koran book and Islamic principles as their guidelines to enforce and administer strictly on their daily life and politics. If you were surprised by such fa

Quote like this only suits to come from an idiotic moron, Finnking. No one can deny the fact that majority of the terrorists in the world made up largely of Islamists who use Koran book and Islamic principles as their guidelines to enforce and administer strictly on their daily life and politics. If you were surprised by such fact, little wonder you have been in your basement cell for too long and ignorant of what have been going on around the world.

#12 Tim......Your post just described in detail the behaviour of American and British soldiers in Afghanastan. Well done.