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Published Date: 09 September 2008
THE United States' most senior soldier in Afghanistan has called for the Pentagon to investigate claims that more than 90 civilians were killed in a US air strike, after harrowing video footage emerged showing the broken bodies of children among the dead.
One grim, eight-minute clip, filmed on a mobile phone in the aftermath of the bombing, shows rows of bodies laid side-by-side in a makeshift morgue. Among them are at least 11 children, many of them toddlers.

The footage handed over to the UN mission in Kabul, shows two long rows of bodies apparently killed in the raid, laid on a mosque floor, awaiting burial.

One video, apparently taken by a mobile phone, is grainy and details, including a precise body count, are difficult to make out. However, there appear to be several dozen bodies, all covered by blankets.

A second video shows three young children wrapped in white shrouds. A fourth child has gruesome head wounds.

General David McKiernan, the US commander of Nato's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), ordered a fresh investigation led by a Pentagon general, after the footage was released.

The top-level review comes just days after he admitted there were "large discrepancies" among conflicting accounts of the death toll.

American officials claim there were just seven civilians killed, but the UN, the Afghan government, and human rights groups say its closer to 90.

The damning footage was shot by a doctor who visited the morgue, in a building normally used as a mosque, on the morning after the 22 August attack.

At one point a blanket is pulled back to show the grey, lifeless face of an infant. The dead child's head is no bigger than a man's hand. A large section of skull is missing. Women can be heard wailing in the background. One mourner is heard crying for his mother.

Locals said most of the dead were women and children.

The bombs were called in by US Special Forces after their patrol was ambushed in Azizabad, in Herat province, shortly before dawn on 22 August. Officials said they were trying to arrest a suspected Taleban commander.

Days after the attack US officials remained adamant just 30 Taleban insurgents had been killed, including their commander, despite detailed claims by Afghan officials that at least 76 people had been killed, including 50 children.

Four days after the air strike the UN top official in Kabul, Kai Eide, claimed he had "convincing evidence … that some 90 civilians were killed, including 60 children, 15 women and 15 men".

Hamid Karzai, Afghanistan's president, said relations with the US had "worsened" in the wake of the raid, which prompted a grovelling phone call from the US president, George Bush.

It comes amid growing criticism of international troops for failing to curb civilian killings. A Human Rights Watch report, published yesterday, said civilian deaths, as a result of US and Nato air strikes, tripled from 2006 to 2007.

Brad Adams, the group's Asia director, said: "Mistakes by the US and Nato have dramatically decreased public support for the Afghan government and the presence of international forces."

American officials eventually revised their initial body count, on 2 September, but this was still nowhere close to the numbers reported elsewhere. A spokesman said: "The investigation found that between 30 and 35 Taleban militants were killed. In addition five to seven civilians were killed, two civilians were injured and subsequently treated."

Mr Eide summoned Gen McKiernan to his office in Kabul last Friday, to see the evidence for himself.

He was furious that the UN had released such an uncompromising statement condemning the raid.

However, a source close to the ISAF commander revealed he was moved almost to tears when he finally saw the images for himself. "He was shocked and humbled. He left like a little boy," a military aide said.

If the 90 dead are confirmed, it would be the worst incident of "collateral damage" in Afghanistan since the 2001 invasion.


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  • Last Updated: 08 September 2008 10:40 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
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1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/09/2008 00:45:33

Words can't describe the Atrocity.
2

nolimits,

Far North 09/09/2008 01:08:39
Heck, its just collateral damage as far as the US military is concerned. It seems as if the US of A is starting to regress back to Vietnam years, where civilians were targeted indiscriminately. i.e. a dead gook is a good gook. Same as the North American Indian. The US has a long history of would be genocide.
3

Richardinho,

09/09/2008 01:09:47
What are we doing there again?
4

Postmark-55,

China, 09/09/2008 01:24:51
This war, as well as the illegal occupation of Iraq, needs to come to an end.
The US is present in Afghanistan to avenge the attacks of 9-11 but the guilty aren't suffering, just the innocent.
The blood of the innocent will continue to flow unchecked and it is outright criminal.
If all NATO countries pull their troops out of Afghanistan and the UK pulls their troops out of Iraq, the US will soon get the message and pack up as well. Hopefully when the war monger Bush finally leaves the White House, the US will finally learn to stay at home.
5

mike - across the pond,

ghouls 09/09/2008 01:38:16
I was going to ask the "over under" for the first "usa targets children" post....

answer was 2.... grats nolimits you get the ghoul award....
6

Scullion,

Canada 09/09/2008 01:48:44
We are coming close to the Walter Cronkite moment in this war i.e. where the civilian population says to the military, "We've had it with your lies and bloody incompetence."
Let's find a new solution.
7

Guga II,

Rockall 09/09/2008 03:08:06
#7 Scullion.

Some of us have been saying that from the very start.
8

Madbagpypr,

STEORNABHAGH 09/09/2008 03:24:41
The problem is deciding who the real nutters are and there's the rub.
The pompous little Anti-Christ in the White House who goes around kicking sand in everyone's face and when he realizes he can't win calls in his "homeboys" to join in the row. All because he's trying to start is own Crusade.(Have you ever noticed there are no Arabs on Star Trek? He thinks it's the future.)
OR....
The Islamio Extremist who thinks that women are property( though raping, killing and burning them alive with the children is alright) according to the Koran which he believes to be God's Truth. "Islam is a religion of Peace!" he cries, as martyrs blow themselves up with any unfortunates that happen to be around.
Let's face it lads, the whole world is mad.
9

Madbagpypr,

STEORNABHAGH 09/09/2008 03:31:36
#2

You have a good point. Vietnam and this war were both brought on by VERY unpopular presidents, both of which gained control by shady circumstances ,( assassination of JFK and disappearing ballots of black neighbourhoods), and BOTH of the scunners were from TEXAS. A place were family trees have no branches.
Coincidence? I think not
10

tommy,

belfast uk 09/09/2008 04:09:26
Remember Jenin
11

sonny,

Bangkok 09/09/2008 04:48:08
Cry me a river. All you who get on my Country (the USA)because of something like this need to remember that the Taliban and Al Qaeda BOTH use civilians as shields KNOWING that if they are attacked people like you fools will only hear of the innocent lives lost. Let the people THERE stop allowing them that and maybe they won't end up dead. Until then I say if you have them in your sights blast them.
12

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 09/09/2008 05:05:08
I wonder what war criminal Dick Cheney has to say about this? Will Georgian president Saakavili respond? This is GENOCIDE committed by cowardly US war criminals that press buttons and drop bombs on anything that moves. How do these US murderers go home to their wife and kids and sleep at night?
13

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 09/09/2008 05:45:23
Hello All,

Well, I see the usual anti-US nutcases are at work once again. None of you, nor the anti-US Scotsman, bothered to note the Night Vision Video film of the ENTIRE ATTACK by a news crew. Nor did the reporter of this anti-US article bother to note that the news crews affadavits confirmed that the original report of 5-7 civilian dead was in fact ACCURATE.

I would also note that NONE of you 'stalwarts' bother to remind both yourselves that both Al Qaeda and Taliban personnel and their supporters, have DUG UP the recently deceased from surrounding villages, to DUPE the idiot European/British Press, into believing that the US purposefully killed civilians (meaning mostly children).

You simpletons really do deserve to live under Sharia Law and be forced to convert to Islam.....it'll happen soon enough: you now have 'no go' Zones in England for Muslim Enclaves (self made) and soon you'll have them in Scotland.

I yearn for the day that one of you twits will find yourselves amongst the 'peace loving' Muslim enclaves-you'll find that reality differs greatly with your PC sense of fantasy.

Cheers from the Rockies.
14

Hippie,

Ft. Collins 09/09/2008 06:10:34
As an American, I am truly ashamed. I am not a supporter of this war! BUSH MUST GO!!

I am sorry that the leaders of my country are horrible. I am sorry world.
15

Pilrig.,

Livingston 09/09/2008 06:31:08
14 - the view from the cave.
16

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 09/09/2008 06:59:24
#15 "As an American, I am truly ashamed. I am not a supporter of this war! BUSH MUST GO!!"
A voice of reason in the US wilderness of warmongers. More of the same John McCain has a 4 point lead over Obama at the moment. It's hard to believe so many Europeans would like to see Obama as president while US voters opt for warmonger McCain. I guess it all boils down to the fact that Europeans travel more and view things from a different perspective while 80% of US citizens have never stepped off their soil, therefore they have an extremely narrow outlook.
#14 Neanderthal75 - You just carry on reading your Murdoch news while watching CNN and Fox News. America's most senior soldier in Afghanistan has called for the Pentagon to investigate claims that more than 90 civilians were killed in an American airstrike, after harrowing video footage emerged showing the broken bodies of many women and children and toddlers. The grim, eight-minute clip, filmed on a mobile phone in the aftermath of the bombing, shows rows of shrouded bodies laid side by side in a make-shift morgue. General David McKiernan, the commander of Nato's International Assistance Force (Isaf), ordered a fresh investigation led by a Pentagon general after footage was released on Sunday night. In a statement he said: "In light of emerging evidence pertaining to civilian casualties ... I feel it is prudent to request that US Central Command send a general officer to review the US investigation and its findings." US officials originally claimed there were just seven civilians killed but the UN and Afghan authorities said that the body count was closer to 90 and most of the dead were women and children.
17

All Politicians are the same,

Scotland 09/09/2008 07:58:22
#17

Of course they must investigate, it is only right and proper, this is a very unbalanced peace as are the comments. the truth is probably somewhere in the middle ground, undoubtedly civilians died and that is a tragedy but the Taleban are also killing women and children and blaming it on NATO forces because the left wing european press want to beleive it.
18

Vincent-W,

09/09/2008 08:00:22
Neanderthal75,

keep posting chum - you are just confirming some of the less desirable stereotypes of Americans.
19

Unimpressed one,

09/09/2008 08:03:14
#14, Next you'll be saying that My Lai was all faked as well! Just admit it, the US is as guilty as the next nation when it comes to war crimes. When losses become acceptable, as one day they will, the US and UK will abandon Afghanistan and the country will revert back to its 14th century living standards.
20

Strict Ivan Jellicoe,

Renfrew 09/09/2008 08:05:53
Echos of My Lai
21

Globetrotter_scot,

09/09/2008 08:51:27
14. Neanderthal
Interesting how, the moment a newspaper covers the story of percieved US war crimes, it becomes "anti-US".
I guess some cant hack the "high and mighty" US being low and dirty after all.

You sound unhappy, are you ok?

As for the Taliban digging up graves, I would quite like to see your evidence for that. Could you supply a link?

As for the rest of the article, it seems to extend on a racist tirade of Islam. I'm not sure what the relevance is - maybe because these people being killed in Afghanistan is ok simply because they are Muslim.

Cheers from the real world.
22

Longdirk Maceth,

NZ 09/09/2008 08:57:04
Winning the hearts and minds.
#14, Fool.
23

Globetrotter_scot,

09/09/2008 09:08:15
22. Me.
By "article" I meant "comment"
24

Globetrotter_scot,

09/09/2008 09:15:45
14. Neanderthal.
"Nor did the reporter of this anti-US article bother to note that the news crews affadavits confirmed that the original report of 5-7 civilian dead was in fact ACCURATE."

These "news crews affadavits" or "independent journalist" happened to be none other than Fox News correspondent Oliver North. Do you remember Iran-Contra?
25

conservative,

Fife 09/09/2008 09:42:17
Steady there people - they're not US citizens so it doesn't really matter how many the US has massacred eh?

:o(
26

bluehead,

edinburgh 09/09/2008 09:44:43
I have long suspected that when it is announced,that so many insurgents are killed,that in all probability,
half will have been innocent people.
the propaganda is as evil as the war.
27

Red Tower,

Dunoon 09/09/2008 09:58:56
Has the US done anything beneficial in World terms since the Marshall Plan? I wish to Hell they would elect an isolationist president. Even Obama talks about the US leading the world after his inauguration.
For God's sake we need America leading the world like we all need another hole in our heads.
28

tommy,

belfast uk 09/09/2008 09:59:23
#5 postmark 55
I agree the US troops should be pulled out of Iraq etc.,
Those brave soldiers are fighting for democracy where democracy can never prevail.

#14 Neanderthal
That is why I said remember jenin-- telling porkies or taqiyya is a regular islamic practise
http://tinyurl.com/2566z
The Srebrenica massacre of muslims -- more porkie telling or taqiyya
http://tinyurl.com/6mhtmy also http://tinyurl.com/5uvz9d

The bodies were laid out in a mosque and immediately most of the dimwitted think church
http://tinyurl.com/5bkq4v as the most recent example

The amazing thing is that most of your leaders must have been educated in the uk because they bear the stamp of labours failed education policy in that like our government they cant seem to identify the ideology that fuels the jihad

In his article arabs and aztecs 2004-- dr jack wheeler writes with an accuracy that eludes our respective governments
"Without perpetual war against the infidels, without Jihad, Islam has no driving purpose. It is therefore incumbent on all those who wish not to someday submit to an Islamic yoke to demand of Moslems that they publicly renounce the Koran Call to Jihad." Civilization only path to peace is for Arabs and their Islamic converts to stop behaving like Aztecs


Christopher Hitchens said (and it's not often I would agree with him)
Liberalism is a failed, stale, dying concept. It stands for nothing, it defends nothing, it sacrifices for nothing.
The goal of liberalism is to survive, win, have the most and be in a position to tell others what they are doing wrong.---------------------- Sooo true
29

daveserviceman,

edinburgh 09/09/2008 10:39:08
it seems the fight against terrorism ie the taliban and quada has been lost and that they have taken over the UK by what is beeing said on here looks like you all are members of those organisations it will be to your detriment
30

John M. Slusser II,

Nantwich 09/09/2008 11:18:28
EVERYONE from EVERYWHERE - news flash (especially for those who refuse to acknowledge history and reality in one fell swoop - AND for the hordes of politically correct numpties - oh my, that includes 99 percent of the posters on this site) IF you can name me one, just one, war in the history of planet earth where innocent civilians were NOT killed, I will eat your hat. And before ANYONE from the UK points their "holier-than-thou" fingers at the US - how about when the UK was the most hedonistic and antagonistic imperialist-colonialist nation in the world? What about all the war atrocities foisted on other nations by our armed forces then? What? Oh, sorry, that was absolutely and totally admissable because our king (or queen depending on which period) said it was God's will that we British go forth and conquer. Anyone's toes hurting yet? And how about those "peace-loving" Europeans? Take just a glimpse at their bloody histories, killing each other, even among family members of their ruling classes, and well, my my - the US is just THE pariah of warmongers. Shocking, verily verily, shocking I say.
31

Vincent-W,

09/09/2008 12:49:38
John M. Slusser II,

Are you saying that because ones forefathers may have perpetrated heinous acts years ago that one is not permitted to voice any opinion against current day heinous acts?
32

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 09/09/2008 13:14:42
No doubt more civilians will be slaughtered by US trigger happy pilots when Sarah Palin is elected Vice President of the US. From war criminal Dick Cheney to God's messenger, Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin believes the US army is on a mission from God "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she told them. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan." God Bless America!
33

James Donald,

Newbridge 09/09/2008 13:21:44
#4 Postmark-55,Red China - "If all NATO countries pull their troops out of Afghanistan and the UK pulls their troops out of Iraq, the US will soon get the message and pack up as well" - Don't think so somehow. Can't see why you are so keen for NATO troops to pull out of Afghanistan. If they do, there is a strong possibility that the Taleban will return to power in at least part of the country. This will give the Muslim extremists fighting the Communist Chinese government in Xinjiang Uyghur another valuable resupply/escape route.
34

Alleycat,

NJ, USA 09/09/2008 13:26:50
This is truly sickening. As an American, I am deeply disgusted, and I hope the world knows there are so many of us who do not support our behavior in the world.
35

Bill S.,

Reality 09/09/2008 14:00:39
Here is a link for anyone thinking that anything would be different under a Pres. Obama http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/090608Floyd.shtml

Fact is that the supremecists are in charge in America whether a democrat or republican wins the White House.
Mother Jones is doing a series on U.S. bases in the world, makes a good read.

The U.S. doesn't need an isolationist policy, the U.S. needs a policy that deals with all countries from a position of honesty. If you think that is what is being done could you please explain the difference to me between Kosovo and South Ossetia or Abkhazia? And let's not forget that it was the Brits who were complicit with the U.S. in removing the only democratically elected government in the Middle East. Can you say Mossadegh? You want change? If you are a U.S. citizen you'd better vote for Bob Barr. We lost our chance to have Ron Paul on the republican ticket.
36

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09/09/2008 14:17:17
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37

Lock,

09/09/2008 15:00:03
'Democracy was developed in a tolerant, Pagan Europe by a brilliant Pagan European called Pericles who lived in Athens circa 400BC! Has it ever occurred to anyone that democracy is not necessarily an exportable commodity'

The Athenians had plenty of slaves so 'democracy' could work. The 'Demos' made the decisions while the slaves did the work. Tolerant? Mmmmm...

38

AtheT,

Sandee 09/09/2008 15:08:04
#36, one word for you, Ballocks. Pinko blatherer.
As for the US, arent we so glad that they are our allies. And will pull our bannocks out of the fire next time as well as the last two times.
39

Bemused and above it all,

09/09/2008 15:27:58
few more months then bring out the nukes!
40

Bemused and above it all,

09/09/2008 15:28:31
in fact sod it, bring out the troops, fire in the warheads, wipe them from the face of the earth!
41

Bemused and above it all,

09/09/2008 15:28:48
Kill them all unless they are like us!
42

Bemused and above it all,

09/09/2008 15:29:58
sorry, just realised that there's a small door in the oval office which has a Being John Malkovic type thing going on, thankfully Dubya bounced out my left nostril after failing to recognise what a brain is.....
43

Bemused and above it all,

09/09/2008 15:36:09
#38
Really, how so?
North Africa, British 7th army and SOE developed the LRDPG, took out the Luftwaffe, disrupted supplies and took on the 3rd&4th AfrikannKorps Panzer regiment.
Faced the bloodiest fighting in El Alamein and led the raid on Tobruk which destroyed the Axis Supplies, leading directly to succes in that front.
Following North Africa, 7th army were directed up the west coast of Sicily & Italy, facing the same fierce resistance and heavyily outnumbered, the Axis supported by deploying 3 Waffen SS divisions to support theeir troops. American forces were deployed up the east coast, there were 2 divisions of heavy armour and 1 waffen ss troop, the rest were conscripts/youth.
Monte Casino, again 7th Army with heavy support from Canadian/Polish troops, American air support and artillery.
Western Europe, Operation Market Garden, Americans REFUSED to follow up the spearhead by the Paras with Armour and support leading to the catastrophe at Nemijen Bridge.
Yes Thank you for 'saving' us back then!
44

Bemused and above it all,

09/09/2008 15:39:23
Burma, the thin redline? Great movie by Malik, unfortunately the thin red line was the Chindit fighters, directly acknowledged by the Japanese as the fiercest, most tenatious enemy they ever faced, indeed when faced with the choice of facing Chindits in the Jungle or facing US troops in the Fields, many japanese soldiers choose the latter.
Then we have the Nuclear Bombs, yes Hiroshima was a legitamite target when you consider the Mistubishi naval yard being there, Nagasaki, that was just to see what would happen on a civilian population. Nice stuff man, thanks for 'saving' us again!
45

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 09/09/2008 16:09:44
#38 "As for the US, arent we so glad that they are our allies. And will pull our bannocks out of the fire next time as well as the last two times" The French weren't so glad when US warplanes killed 10 of their troops and wounded 21 in Afghanistan last month in friendly fire.
46

Vincent-W,

09/09/2008 16:22:21
AtheT,

Only when it suited the US did they get involved, but thanks anyway.
47

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 09/09/2008 16:27:37
Here we go again with yet another group of civilians targeted and murdered in Afghanistan by the US.
A US bomb missed its target by more than 1 1/2 miles and hit a house on Tuesday killing two Afghan civilians and wounding 10 at a time of rising tension between the Afghan government and international troops over the use of airstrikes. Meanwhile a US team is ready to reinvestigate a way to cover up the deaths of 90 Afghan civilians shown on video.
48

ho,

09/09/2008 21:55:46
The Americans should be experts at this now.
Doing it since WW2. Like Dresden killed thousands of helpless women, children and old people just to empress Stalin.
The USA should be used to it by now.
49

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 10/09/2008 00:34:57
Brage in 36:

I agree with your conclusion at the end when you said 'one day the world will have had enough'. I've tried to turn my country around and I've failed. But I have 1 small correction on your post. About 500 people were murdered unjustly at MyLai, that is true. But you said they were killed by Calley's men and thats not quite true. According to statements of the soldiers who were there the large majority were actually killed by Lietenant Calley himself using a high-powered machine gun he manned. The men under Calley were reluctant to do those killings. Thats why Calley jumped on the machine gun and killed so many. Then he specifically ordered his men to do the same. One US soldier did nothing in response to his order. Calley held a gun to the man's head and ordered him to kill. and the other thing you said was that Calley wasn't convicted in a US court. He was found guilty on that crime by a US Army court and he would've served a long prison sentence if the president had not intervened.

here's a great article about why it is that the US will not stop these senseless wars.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10118

Our country will pay a high price for its failure to get the democracy process to function. The whole world will. The Americans do not have a fix for the fact that fascism grips the United States.
50

Bill S.,

Reality 10/09/2008 01:23:15
To #48

Churchill was as bloody a butcher as any and it was he who called for the raid on Dresden. The RAF sent two waves of Lancasters. The first consisted of 234 and the second 538 planes. They dropped 2656 tons of bombs and the fire-storm started shortly after the arrival of the first wave that bombed for 17 minutes. The second wave arrived some three hours later and targeted the fringe of hte flames. The U.S. bombers concentrated on the railway stations and marshalling yards. Look it up!
51

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 10/09/2008 01:59:15
#47 Rob Bennett, Point Piper Australia. Another Ocker with half a brain.All emotion and not a smidgeon of logic.Wait until all the evidence is presented before spewing out the usual ill informed dross.
You like many "UNGRATEFUL" Australians would be speaking Japanese now were it not for the Americans,FACT. A point to ponder Oh!perceptive one.Just north of you is the largest Muslim nation on the planet.They are bursting at the seams for more real estate on which to expand into.Remember a little thing called "konfrontasi"?Should it happen again, if there are no Brits or Americans to haul 20 million Aussies chestnuts out of the fire,what then smartass?
52

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 10/09/2008 02:12:09
The anti-US cohorts at all costs need to see a shrink. Had it been a suicide bomber deliberately killing 90 people there would have been a couple of 'tut,tuts'and end of story.Innocent until proven guilty for everyone else on the planet but the Yanks.What a bunch of panty-waisted,hanky-wringing,losers.Wait until ALL the evidence is displayed,trial,if any etc.But just listen to yourselves.Like a lot of old wives listening to gossip.Your ramblings make the terrorists ecstatic,with your assisting them with the propoganda war.Real patriots.By all means rant and rave if irrefutable proof is produced etc,but until then stop getting your rocks off on speculation,whimps.
53

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 10/09/2008 03:03:51
#52 Dragonhead,Dalian,China - Are you really Chinese? Since when do the Chinese support Texan rednecks. China is at the top of the US hate list, didn't you know that you clown. You've got to be an absolute FOOL to support a country that hates your guts. Dragonhead is just another member of the US conga-line of suckholes. Your country is the next US target after they finish with Russia. Wake up stupid!!!
54

Billy Boy,

Sherman Oaks California 10/09/2008 05:03:42
It is wrong to assume that it is only the Americans who would call in an airstrike to kill a "suspected" terrorist, and massacreing a whole community instead. This has been their standard practise in Civilian areas-as opposed to battlefield situations- since Korea! This type of blanket bombing should send shudders through any human being. Sadder still, is the likelyhood it is being used by the British and others. Mass murder Bush/Cheney style being perpetrated with the blessing of the UN and NATO. Does anyone think we can win anything in this way? They will hate us for generations! No decent Country or person should be supporting these invasions. Get our Servicemen OUT!
55

Ian Vernon,

10/09/2008 11:52:02
Let's not forget what the Afghanistan war is really about. It is about the construction and guarding of the Trans Afghanistan Pipeline (TAP), which is to be controlled by American companies, to bring oil to western markets from the Caspian basin. Plans for the war were drawn up before 9-11, and if you are an anti-conspiracy theorist then you can fantasise that that event was a hugely lucky coincidence for the Neocons in Washington that allowed the plan to be put into effect.

What was the only building to be guarded by US forces after their victory in Iraq? The Oil Ministry, of course. Do the Neocons give a damn about the Iraqi people whose land they have reduced to rubble? Do they give a damn about the Afghani people or only about building and guarding their pipeline? Is Dick Cheney a humanitarian or a greedy psychopathic butcher? It is so hard to decide, isn't it?
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Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 11/09/2008 02:44:16
#53 Rob Bennett,Point Piper, Me Chinese? hardly!Attended a Senior Officers' Course at a place called Portsea some years ago.That should ring a bell.You like a host of the posters here, are all knicker twisted emotion and SFA facts to support your claims.So blinded by your anti-US stance as to be worthless in any discussion.Aussies should look northwards and worry.Stick to 'inadvertently' importing Cane toads into South Timor,is about all you are good for. As for China, I see it and experience it every day and KNOW for a fact that the majority of the drivel written in this rag about China, by you and others like you is a load of out dated b*llocks!
Perhaps you would be better advised to learn Bahasa Indonesian for when they come a calling.After all what is to stop them? Tough Chinese speaking Rudd? I jest of course.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 12/09/2008 03:48:30
#57 D'head

"Attended a Senior Officers' Course at a place called Portsea some years ago"

I take it you were the janitor if your expertise at writing English is anything to go by.

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Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 12/09/2008 14:11:41
#57 Dragonhead,Dalian,China
"Attended a Senior Officers' Course"
Yet another redneck warmonger hell bent on creating more death and destruction throughout the world. You and gun toting reindeer eating Palin should get along like a house on fire.

 

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